Friday, August 6, 2010

Is a 7mm mauser 7x57 round sufficient for bear hunting?

Which is more accurate at long range A 30-30 or 7mm mauser?Is a 7mm mauser 7x57 round sufficient for bear hunting?
The 7mm Mauser is a wonderful cartridge, highly regarded and is the oldest smokeless powder cartridge manufactured. The 30-06 is actually modeled on the 7mm, just bigger. The 7mm has better ballistic potential than a standard round nose 30-30. If the 30-30 were a bolt action with a quality bullet the 7mm would have a slight velocity edge. For the most part, the 7mm bullet selection will provide better Sectional Density and Ballistic Co-efficient than a comparable 30-30 round. The 30-30, being a rimmed cartridge, looses a little on the accuracy side too.





As for hunting, bullet placement in an appropriate bullet weight is more important than actual caliber. A 7mm with good shooting is just as effective as a .375 H%26amp;H Magnum; the Mag just has extra margins of error built into it. Since the 7mm is an absolute joy to shoot, you will be much more comfortable with it than say a .338 Mag.Is a 7mm mauser 7x57 round sufficient for bear hunting?
AK pilot is right: black bear, yes. Brown bear, it'll kill them, but it isn't enough for safety. Keep in mind that Karamojo Bell killed hundreds of elephants with the little thing. It's also a lot flatter shooting than many people give it credit for. I have at least a dozen rifles in that range of calibers, but the 7x57 is one of my absolute favorite calibers. It's truly amazing the penetration and set-up you can get with a 175 grain Partition bullet making it perform out of all proportion to its diminutive size and ';paper'; ballistics. It's good for any sensible range, and it gained a reputation in the Boer Wars for its long-range effectiveness.
A 7x57 is sufficient for bear, provided you place the bullet precisely. Personally, I would rather use something bigger because I like to shoot them through the shoulders. There is nothing worse than tracking a wounded bear through thick brush, so I want to do what I can to make sure they don't go anywhere. I wouldn't use anything smaller than a .30-06, although my great grandpa used to shoot them with a .32 special.





A 7x57 will shoot 'flatter' than a 30-30 and has a further effective range.
Where the 30-30 has a reputation for being the rifle used for taking bears out in the development of our country, as to the 7mm I think I would opt for a larger caliber in any bear hunting situation. Preferable would be something along the lines of a 35 Remington for a minimum in hunting Black Bear, actually I would want something with more punch. For Grizzly or Brown Bear a Magnum Caliber. I have heard stories of hunters using 410 and 20 gauge Shotguns with rifled slugs. A few years back I hunted a Black Bear that was a problem with a 30/06 it performed well using a 220 grain bullet, but I would seriously reconsider using it again and more than like opt for a 308 Norma Magnum. Just remember that pound for pound any bear can be as fierce as a grizzly especially if its wounded.
I don't know why the 7mm Mauser always gets described as wimpy. It has almost the power of a 270 with heavier and wider bullets, which amount to about the same killing power, at as much range as most good shots can hit at under field conditions. It has lots more power and range than the 30-30, which is long accepted as plenty for deer, or black bear properly hit.
Yes, for black bears. The 7mm is a lot better at long range because it has more velocity and better bullet design.
Black bear: yes.


Brown bear: no.
the 8 mm ,,, 7 57 ,,, 30-30 is faster on bear ok
trade them for a 444 or a 450 marlin and out to about 130yds and you will do fine.

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